Strat Neck Relief and its effect on String Bending Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by Platefire, Mar 1, 2018. Neck and fingerboard. I put some Texas Specials on it, bought this neck and now I have a $1500 guitar that I originally paid $150 for. Order now and … The feel is a little chunkier than my USA 62 RI Strat neck but not by much and was going to use for a future Strat build that never materialized. #3 - Neck does not have enough relief. You want this much relief in the neck. I know these measurements are going to seem crazy but this is the only way I get no buzz or rattle. If the string is too long or short, the guitar will play farther and farther out of tune as you move up the neck. Therefore, intonation hinges on the length of the string from saddle to nut. I put some Texas Specials on it, bought this neck and now I have a $1500 guitar that I originally paid $150 for. In like new condition with minimal signs of usage frets have no string indentations and made at the FujiGen Plant in Japan. I have a CV 60's strat, that for the life of me cannot get the neck relief to be below .012. Assuming the guitar is strung and tuned to pitch, it should have a slight dip in the middle (around the 8th fret). Serial number range for the 58 Fender Stratocaster are generally 25000 to 30000 (some numbers with a "0" or "-" prefix on the neck plate). That dip is measurable and we call it "neck relief". Here’s an alternative to the sight method that eliminates this discrepancy. Is it possible to replace my squier bullet strat neck with american standard fender strat neck? Strat Neck Relief and its effect on String Bending Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by Platefire, Mar 1, 2018. No. The standard truss rod can counteract concave curvature in a neck that has too much relief, for example, by generating a force in the neck opposite to that caused by excessive string tension. Age: 72 Posts: 3,582. With the strings off the guitar the neck can be made straight. LOW E 7/64 A 8/64 D 9/64 G 9/64 B 8/64 E 7/64 Relief at 10 th fret 0.15.,Can someone tell me why it has to be like this in order to be no rattle or buzz? A guitar neck is supposed to be close to perfectly straight, but not quite. Ive been learning how to setup my own guitars and I was wondering if Gibson has a specific neck relief measurement for an average guitar setup. I play 11's standard tuning and the neck gains the perfect amount of relief for me. too much relief; the middle of the neck dips compared to the two ends, a steel rule placed along the fretboard flexes in the middle a tad more than it should. The Stratocaster featured an all-new back body contour and sculpted neck heel allowing for a far more comfortable playing experience. Joined: Nov 3, 2003 Location: North Louisiana around Many. One of Townshend’s hallmarks as a songwriter is his … Checking Relief With a Straightedge. Conclusion so far:. Again not my cup of tea. Model #: 0991103921. With that, here is our top 10 (not specifically in any order, except for #1).1) Practice/Playing Style- no need for a detailed explanation here. Platefire Friend of Leo's. You should choose saddle heights that match the radius of your neck, while allowing the strings to be low enough to be played comfortably and high enough that they don't buzz against the frets. This one focuses on how to RELIC the back of the neck. 21 vintage frets (.079 x .043") Solid maple neck, sanded, unfinished and ready... View full details Sold out On a fretted instrument like a guitar, intonation is the instrument's ability to produce fretted notes at the correct pitch all the way up the neck. Page 2 of 2 < Prev 1 2 ... All said Strat neck pockets could well need to be shimmed none of the above will matter if the rear of the pocket is off. When a neck remains in a back bowed state with no string tension (and the rod completely loose) I may choose to plane the neck. The large backshape neck of the 1954 to 1957 Fender Stratocasters was gone, changed to a thinner more modern style neck shape. The body was in perfect shape, but the neck wasn't so good. The HSS Strat, in particular, was a highlight as it featured a new Double Tap Humbucker with an overwound coil which ensured a consistent volume between pickups in coil-split mode. If the fingerboard is set too flat the strings tend to buzz against the frets and a very slight degree of upwards curve (aka neck relief… 70s-style Genuine Replacement Neck. With a straightedge placed between the D and G strings, bow will become apparent. Conversely, the finest Stratocaster in the world will sound like chaos in the hands of a player who has not put in the hard time. In 1962 they also offered the option of having a rosewood fretboard on top of the maple neck, a so-called rosewood slab board. Fender also uses a unique bi-flex truss rod system on some instruments. Welcome to Strat talk, where we continue to visit willingly, to get spoken down to like we are children. Still, 1958 Fender Stratocasters are very nice guitars. Great players can make a budget Squier Mini-Strat sound amazing. Insert the four neck bolts into their holes, and tap them with a hammer to mark their locations on the neck. Crafted at our Ensenada, Mexico manufacturing facility, this genuine vintage-style 3-bolt Stratocaster® guitar neck features a comfortable "U"-shaped profile and 7.25"-radius maple fingerboard with 21 vintage-style frets. I wanted to start a new conversation on this. Classic Strat looks with a modern feel The neck shape is a "Flat Oval", a modern feeling profile that has plenty of meat, but plays fast and effortlessly. Relief is calculated with the instrument tuned to pitch so we can measure the bow created by string tension. https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/Time_for_a_Neck_Adjustment Given the SAME 12 th fret action, less neck relief will give equal or greater next fret clearance, equal or greater mid-way action, lower mid-neck action, and lower behind the fret action. I believe the original specs for a Fender Strat are 1 5/8" nut width with a 7.25" radius and 21 frets. The neck slipped on without a … For example, a new Fender American Vintage '57 Stratocaster built to total vintage spec with the soft V-shape neck, 7.25-inch radius, bent steel saddles and smaller frets like they made in … Part 3 in a sub-series of videos focusing on the neck of my relic nitrocellulose Strat project. It plays like no other strat I've ever owned, sounds amazing, and is a great "Clapton Blackie" clone. The amount of curvature along the length of the neck is called “relief,” and a small amount of concave relief is often desirable. Would adjusting the relief help? You know, like a starting point until I find what is really right for me. The neck slipped on without a … $299.99 MORE ON THE WAY. 21-fret unfinished Maple replacement neck for Stratocaster® guitars. Availability: In Stock. Sometimes you look at the neck and it appears to have the right amount of relief but it still just doesn't feel right. Agtronic, Oct 26, 2020 #12. But I am saying that certain Strat and Tele setups are more buzz-prone than others. It plays like no other strat I've ever owned, sounds amazing, and is a great "Clapton Blackie" clone. When the neck is only slightly back bowed or simply dead flat, using heavier gauge strings may create just enough tension to pull then neck straight or increase the relief. The largest gap is usually towards the center of the neck. The advantages were less friction between fingers and wood and less wear with the more robust rosewood. Since 1989 Townshend has played a Fender Stratocaster modified to meet his unique needs—and now the Fender Custom Shop is proud to present the Limited Edition Pete Townshend Stratocaster to players and fans. My HS Anderson Mad Cat Mk2 has a concave bend, i.e. So in order to adjust the neck, you will need to take the neck out of the body to get to it. The stratocaster has had maple necks since the very beginning. Get a feeler gauge and a straightedge that is roughly the same length as the guitar neck—both items can be found at … Here we see that the same 12 th fret action with less neck relief clearly gives equal or greater mid-way action, all the way up.. Standard Fender heel mounting is done with 4-Bolt Holes - 1/8" (3mm) diameter (spread of 2" x 1-1/2"). Strings vibrate in an arc with minimum displacement near the nut and bridge. More modern versions have a 9.5" radius neck, and there are a couple models (Eric Johnson Sig, Deluxe Player Strats) that have a 12" radius. Strat necks have a rounded base to their heel and Tele necks have a squared-off base to their heel, which makes it difficult to interchange the two types of necks across various bodies. Truss rod is maxed out and have tried clamping. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Mar 1, 2018 #1. 1971–1979, 3 bolt back plate with MicroTilt neck relief adjuster and "Bullet" truss rod nut. The bridge isn't floating. The body was in perfect shape, but the neck wasn't so good. Neck relief refers to a small amount of concave bow intentionally created in the neck of a guitar or bass by adjusting the truss rod.Adding relief (increasing the amount of bow) to the neck, increases the space between the strings and the frets, allowing them to vibrate freely without buzzing. Hi guyss!! The action is very high. Here are the measurements. Gilmour's Black Strat has a 1969 alder body with a 1983 '57 re-issue 21 fret maple neck, C-shaped with a 7.25 neck radius and relief at 9th fret of 0.13mm (as of 2008). Unfortunately, most truss rod adjustments on a Stratocaster’s neck are located at the heel. The pau ferro has some very nice grain patterns and is an excellent fretboard material X. If the body doesn't have the neck bolt holes drilled, use the neck plate to help locate them. Fender David Gilmour Signature Series Black Strat replica (NOS version) Luckily, you can adjust your truss rod (or have authorized service personnel do it) to get the intonation and playability that you prefer. Adjust the truss rod until the feeler gauge fits between the bottom of the string and the fret. Once strings are put on (D'Addario 10s) and tuned to pitch the relief is super high. ELECTRONICS 3x V-Mod II Strat single-coil pickups, 5-way blade selector switch, master volume, neck/middle tone, push-push bridge tone control activates neck pickup in switch positions 1 and 2; SCALE LENGTH 25.5”/648mm; NECK WIDTH 43.2mm at nut, 51.8mm at 12th fret; NECK DEPTH 21.1mm at first fret, 23.0mm at 12th fret Classic Player 60's Stratocaster Neck, 21 Med Jumbo Frets, Pau Ferro, C Shape Classic Player 60's Stratocaster Neck, 21 Med Jumbo Frets, Pau Ferro, C Shape. Checking Neck Relief. In part achieved through proper nut height and neck relief, the height of the strings is also determined by a Stratocaster's adjustable bridge saddles. The simplest way is to place the neck plate into the pocket and properly position it in the rout (refer to the drawing for the proper location). Fender Stratocaster Neck 62 Reissue with hint of flame maple. I'm new here, i just want to ask. Quantity. Look at the neck can be made straight are more buzz-prone than others are 1 5/8 '' nut width a. 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